Path: spln!rex!lex!extra.newsguy.com!lotsanews.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-out.visi.com!hermes.visi.com!gemini.tycho.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Approved: sci-military-moderated@retro.com Return-Path: news@google.com Delivery-Date: Mon Dec 24 22:16:46 2001 Delivery-Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 22:16:46 -0800 for <sci-military-moderated@retro.com>; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 22:16:45 -0800 (PST) id 16Ikcp-0001aU-00 for sci-military-moderated@moderators.isc.org; Tue, 25 Dec 2001 06:59:43 +0100 for <sci-military-moderated@moderators.isc.org>; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 21:59:41 -0800 for <sci-military-moderated@moderators.isc.org>; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 21:59:41 -0800 for sci-military-moderated@moderators.isc.org; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 21:59:40 -0800 To: sci-military-moderated@moderators.isc.org From: psl@interchange.ubc.ca (Paul Lakowski) Newsgroups: sci.military.moderated Subject: Re: RPG-7s How effective ? Date: 24 Dec 2001 21:59:40 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Message-ID: <de5bf54f.0112242159.3fdce62f@posting.google.com> References: <B84C33B2.27B1%rkeeter@earthlink.net> <20011224142542.28309.00000768@mb-mj.aol.com> X-NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.23.94.195 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com X-NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Dec 2001 05:59:40 GMT Content-Length: 1102 Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: 517ff5b4.newsreader.tycho.net X-Trace: 1009350168 gemini.tycho.net 79562 205.179.181.194 X-Complaints-To: abuse@tycho.net Xref: spln sci.military.moderated:41297 mtkkburk@aol.com (Mtkkburk) wrote in message news:<20011224142542.28309.00000768@mb-mj.aol.com>... > >Bob Keeter wrote: > > >> guns with an applique option to protect against the RPG-7. > (snip) > > The Russians are on both sides of the armor vs penetrator race. The Kontakt-5 > with a 15 mm hard steel front plate, will defeat the precursor charges of many > tandem warheads, preserving the reactive armor which can deal with the main > warhead. Is this realistic for a LAV? I dunno, but tandem warhead rockets FRom the patents of Kontakt ERA it looks like the outer plates are 25mm thick and are probably their to stop autocannon APFSDS from detonating the ERA. The thing is , if these tandem charges are just HE then this arrangement will stop tthe damage to the inner ERA panels [ turns inert if hit by HE]. But if the Tandem is a smaller HEAT charge this will cut through the outer 25mm plate @ 65° ~ 6cm erosion and start to penetrate and detonate the main era panels.So uless this tandem charge is a 3cm charge or smaller it should cut through both ERA elements inside the steel box.