Path: spln!rex!extra.newsguy.com!lotsanews.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!nycmny1-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!news-out.visi.com!hermes.visi.com!gemini.tycho.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Approved: sci-military-moderated@retro.com Return-Path: nntp-bounce@supernews.net Delivery-Date: Thu Dec 27 18:34:55 2001 Delivery-Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 18:34:54 -0800 for <sci-military-moderated@retro.com>; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 18:34:53 -0800 (PST) for <sci-military-moderated@moderators.isc.org>; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 21:17:49 -0500 (EST) for sci-military-moderated@moderators.isc.org; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 02:17:48 +0000 To: sci-military-moderated@moderators.isc.org From: Colin Campbell <colinc@linkline.com> Newsgroups: sci.military.moderated Subject: Re: Speculation on rumored T-95 152mm Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 18:17:45 -0800 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <o9ln2uc7h32lpckle6r4avj26mshvu6fi3@4ax.com> Reply-To: colinc@linkline.com References: <9v57en0aln@enews1.newsguy.com> <f4d8827d.0112131053.26c5e1fd@posting.google.com> <f69851a9.0112182242.513ee571@posting.google.com> <bdj22usn99uvnr9fv1olubpoq0jms0n2r9@4ax.com> <3C23B99F.1080806@delta.telenordia.se> <5m782u8qbbhmcmn3op33ubj7kbsgmibq37@4ax.com> <3C2A5CF6.6090504@delta.telenordia.se> <a0fpii$ml0$1@spock.usc.edu> <0jsm2u04gglp5pao1gsqe1li3mlcs5hulg@4ax.com> <a0gee6$sae$1@spock.usc.edu> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Content-Length: 1251 Lines: 40 NNTP-Posting-Host: b7ce1fd8.newsreader.tycho.net X-Trace: 1009506123 gemini.tycho.net 79560 205.179.181.194 X-Complaints-To: abuse@tycho.net Xref: spln sci.military.moderated:41392 On 27 Dec 2001 16:29:58 -0800, schillin@spock.usc.edu (John Schilling) wrote: >Colin Campbell <colinc@linkline.com> writes: > >>On 27 Dec 2001 10:33:54 -0800, schillin@spock.usc.edu (John Schilling) >>wrote: > >>>They also can't deliver WP or cannister, but unfortunately neither >>>can the latest tank cannon. > >>Both these are under development in the US Army. (IIRC the plan is to >>develop the ammunition but not manufacture it until needed.) > >Glad to hear it, though I'm a bit worried about "not manufacture it >until it is needed". At the pace of modern war, that's usually too >late. I know. But we can only get what we can get the budget for. > > >>Also under development are an HE-Frag round, an obstacle destruction >>round, and a fire-and-forget antitank round. > >Also potentially good news. Something in HESH or APHE for the obstacle >destruction, I presume? It is a HEAT-MP with the proximity fuse replaced by a carbide cap and a several millisecond delay detonator. It is designed to penetrate into reinforced concrete then detonate. (And it was tested against light armor and bunkers - it turned them inside-out.) "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, AND wrong." H. L. Menkin